An exchange of views
I recently sent a bulk email to everyone on my email list and finished it by urging everyone to register to vote if they were not already registered and expressed that it was very important to do so or we risk losing our democracy if we do not bring back some checks and balances to our government.
I received the following italicized email in response.
Much of it is inaccurate and seems to be based on propaganda and lies spewed out on the F News Channel. Here it is and then I have a brief response following it.
I agree. A lot of the problems our country is dealing with now are due to the lack of action by Billy Clinton. For example, the Sudanese govt offered Clinton Osama Bin Laden at least twice, and at least twice, Clinton turned them down. For example, the Useless Nations (aka U.N.) passed resolution after resolution to try to get Saddam to comply with the weapons inspection program, but when it came to actually dealing with Saddam, the Useless Nations had no backbone to backup those resolutions. Billy, the leader of the only super power nation, talked tough, but no action to backup his words, either. He was more interested in where his next blowjob was coming from than protecting this country. Regarding the NSA domestic spying, this program was implemented by Clinton, and approved by Hypocrat Senators such as Kennedy, Leahy, and Levin. Now that a Republican administration is in charge, this SAME program is a violation of the constitutional rights of all Americans. Yet, not ONE of the Hypocrat Senators is saying the NSA should stop this program. This is just a bunch of Hypocrat bullshit designed to fool the public into thinking Bush and Cheney are listening in to every phone conversation that is taking place in this country. With the millions of phone calls everyday, that is humanly impossible!!! Of course, the Hypocrat media, like the NY Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, etc. are continually beating this dead horse to make Bush's poll numbers drop. Fortunately, not all of us are STUPID enough to believe everything the Hypocrat media says.
I agree. Bill was no leftist. He after all supported and signed off on NAFTA.
You seem informed so....Remember "No War For Monica?"....How quickly those on the right forget. Furthermore, if so many of our resources (FBI/CIA/NSA etc.) were not being used as pawns to bring "Billy" down we might have actually been able to "connect the dots" and get Osama Bin Laden before 9/11 while a President was in office that don't seem to be related to the Bin Laden's.
As far as the wiretap program that you are referring to as it related to Clinton, Kennedy, Leahy and Levin, Clinton actually used FISA...
Of course Fox News does not report that so I'm not surprised that the 8 -13 percent who watch it are not aware of that fact. Do you watch Fox News?
I agree the media sucks and is too much about corporate interests over real news.
American's don't care about warrant less wiretaps or data mining...You know that...
You also know that they don't care about exchanging Free Speech for Free Speech Zones....Those things have had no effect on Bush's poll numbers.
They do seem to care most about record Gas prices which is pathetic.
I believe Bush's low poll numbers are due to many things that he could have controlled. Our Federal government's response to Katrina , lies about Weapons of Mass Destruction, Failure to capture Osama bin Laden after 9/11, Record deficits, Rising drug costs, (why sign a bill that was written by the pharmaceutical industry or and energy bill that was basically written by the oil industry?)....
I voted for Ronald Reagan, and George H. Bush TWICE...
I am a recovering Republican.
I was a Republican when some of the Republican Ideals were: 1. Smaller Government (dept. of homeland security, office of faith based initiatives....Both are new layers of government just to mention two) 2. Fiscal Responsibility, not record deficits and borrowing 2 billion dollars per day from foreign nations (namely China) to stay afloat and leaving future generations with our bills...... 3. States Rights (Terri Schiavo ...Please.... And the whole Bush Federal Lawsuit in the 2000 election.) 4. Family Values (six years of complete control and Abortion is still legal without any legislation passed to be tested before the courts? And no minimum wage increase in nearly six years and failing to fully fund No Child Left Behind)....Just to mention a few.
I got tired of all of the Republican Lies and wedge issues.
I'm not a Republican or a Democrat....But....I don't get all of my news from the mouth piece of the Republican party (Fox News) either....
Too many people are more loyal to "Party" than to our democracy.
I care just as much about the freedoms and right to the American dream of my right wing relatives
and friends as I do my left wing relatives and friends.
I appreciate the debate and respect your differences of opinion. I would however, insist that you and all others get real facts instead of propaganda before forming an opinion. And finally, make the opinion yours and not a talking point spit out by a party that has done left you behind.